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I created Romhacks.org to address some things I didn’t like about romhacking.net. I made it for those who wanted to use it, some did, most didn’t. welp. When I first made it public, it was almost ready, a group of people quickly joined discord and helped me with moderation tasks, mostly kandowontu and another person. I knew kando from his fastrom hacks. I didn’t know the other person . Turns out they had beef with RHDN (which I had no idea) I guess it’s my fault for not doing background checks on people but what are you gonna do? You […]

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It is clear we have different points of view on this matter and we will not converge. That is fine. So let me put it differently: me and essentially all other 99% of romhackers publish our work as patches for a reason. You, other people, or even the person who runs RHDO might not agree with that reason, and that is fine. But it would be very nice if people at least respected that choice, considering also we are giving away our work for free (of course companies do not need to respect anything, and can kill us whenever they want).

But, if even the person who is going to run our new romhacking home does not respect in the first place our choice by converting our patches to ROMs on CDRomance then there is a serious trust issue at the foundations of this community, and this home will not have much of a future, in my opinion. And no, saying he will remove the pre-patched ROMs upon request is just weak PR, because it is essentially saying: I don't care, and I will keep doing what I am doing unless somebody figures out.

Regarding my tones, If I sounded petty, that was not my intention.
 
Except again, no corporation outside of nintendo attempted to take down a modified rom of their games, regardless if it's pre-patched or not.
The only thing that's really a gray zone is fanmade games, you know, games made from scratch.
 
Trust me, I had a gamebanana account to upload mods there, Now I only came here for the mods and nothing else. Because the admins there are just as bad.
 
They have no legal nor moral ground to demand anything beyond proper credit, it never was their IP in the first place.
You of all people should know that there is no end to trying to placate these folks.
 
You have literally not established anything, w.t.f, you are still modifying copyrighted work without express permission from the original ip holder and until it gets proven otherwise in court it'll be illegal at the end of the day.
All you are accomplishing here is coming across as insanely petty and arrogant.
 
I wish the people who downvote so much made comments as well. Why they're such haters, would be interesting to hear it.
 
I 100% agree with everything you wrote. Hopefully, this site won't fail the way RHDN did and will learn from their mistakes. And yeah, the whole upvote/downvote system is indeed pointless.
 
Is the account I replied to (below Simone D. Alemanno's reply) a spambot that slipped through the cracks?
 
But this practical difference between piracy and romhacking is precisely what I and other people are basing their complaints on. So, I do not see any hypocrisy: I do not see anybody here discussing the CDR vs romhacking "problem" by saying that they are perfect and just.

It is just that we are already in a gray area with romhacking, which so happens in practice to barely survive take downs and companies suing, and we fear the connection with CDR could exacerbate this very delicate stability, which took us years to establish.
 
While I agree about the copyright to a extend, especially how it's outdated. And the hyporcrisy around the users here complaining to CDR despite romhacking is also a suspect.

Keep in mind that Romhacking was a thing for years, in the 90s to be exact.
And there were no incidents that revolves around DMCA a romhack, the only thing I know it's the case is how Nintendo strike down Pokemon Prism, but even then it's the exception rather than the norm.
In fact, Sonic Mania was made by the people who makes romhacks/fangames and a lot of them are made without Sega's permission, so take it as your will.
 
The -20/40 scores on these posts shows that some of these people lack maturity and this whole reddit score shouldn't exist on a romhacking website in the first place. This isn't Reddit or Twitter.
And to think that RHDN was a good place makes me laugh, do you remember the incident where Tom and his projects got nuked by a mod seething over that Goemon 3 hack? And he got doxxed by Twitter insanos afterwards. The mods in question was one of those insanos that supported doxxing of a normal person over a translation. I don't care what's your take on that, this whole doxxing is wrong in anyway, and you're a piece of shit if you're doing that.
For a place that does this, why should I upload my work there? To get me in trouble, even if what I did was nothing out of ordinary?

And I've seen the Discord screenshots from this incident and what I saw was childish behavior and degeneracy. (The Astolfo art for making a dialogue in a discord server, very mature, totally not goofy and toxic).

What I thought this place is to be a competition to RHDN, one that is chill and reasonable. What I got instead, and by reading the comments on news related to this drama, is no different than RHDN. The one who I avoided back in the day.

And then you wonder why the whole romhacking scene is disorganized, little to no centralization (while said central places are specialized only to one IP like SMWcentral for example). Because of the shitty unions like these is what keeps reasonable people away from the immature manchildren who's investing these places.

Do you want to make the community a better place? Have a better moderation without political biases in <strong>any way</strong>, this is a site for modifying read only memory not a political soapbox agenda in disguise and if there's something wrong, do it in private and professionally like a admin should. Instead of making a whole song and dance over it.

I only came here for romhacking, not a Discord drama which caused a whole site to shut down out of juvenile reasons by the mods on both sides. Insanity in every level.
 
Compared to other sites, CDRomance also doesn't have a lot of ads. I use another site named WowROMs where every time you click on <em>anything</em>, it automatically opens a spam site and you have to wait for long to find what you need.

Very annoying.
 
As much as I can agree with the fact that companies can take down both pirates and romhackers, I think it is also fair to consider that RHDN has been up for almost 20 years, without any real takedown, which is impressive considering the huge number of hacks hosted there, while big ROM sharing websites such as EmuParadise, Vimm’s Lair, LoveROMS, LoveRetro.co (and we could keep going with the list), did not face the same luck.

So, although law-wise there is no difference, in practice I believe there is a substantial difference which we cannot ignore so easily.
 
I've been a lurker on CDRomance for years and years, I personally would say, it is one of the best rom-sharing sites. The speeds are great when I need to back up my stuff and, through CDRs, I've found great hidden gems.It is a shame that a archival site has drama, because we can't have nice things in this mudrock.
 


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